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while the results are certainly thought-provoking, they

should be interpreted with this in mind.

In spite of these inherent drawbacks, the study gives us

unique new insights into the subjective experience of patients

with DU. It also provides an important framework for the

future development of a patient-reported UAB outcome

measure as promised by the authors. It is clear that a

concerted research effort is needed to improve our under-

standing of DU and UAB. For this, researchers must agree on

definitions and it will be important to distinguish between

subjective UAB and urodynamic DU. Recognizing that

symptoms of poor bladder emptying may be caused by

both obstruction and a lack of detrusor contraction, we

proposed an adjusted definition:

Underactive bladder is the

subjective feeling of prolonged urination time, slow stream,

and hesitancy, which may or may not be associated with

poor bladder emptying and subsequent storage symptoms

in men and women without evidence of any outlet

obstruction

. Meanwhile, a bladder contractility index of

<

100 in men and a detrusor pressure at maximum flow of

<

20 cm H

2

O in women used as thresholds by the authors

would represent reasonable definitions of urodynamic DU,

at least for research purposes.

Conflicts of interest:

The authors have nothing to disclose.

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Alan D. Uren

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Nikki Cotterill

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Christopher Harding

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Christopher Hillary

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Christopher Chapple

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Monique Klaver

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of Urology, Freeman Hospital, Newcastle, UK;

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Department of Urology,

Royal Hallamshire Hospital, Sheffield, UK;

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The Netherlands

The editorial comments by Fode and Sønksen

[1]

on our

study

[2]

are most welcome and raise a number of

challenging issues. They are correct in suggesting that the

strands of our underactive bladder (UAB)/detrusor under-

activity (DU) research programme is work in progress.

Further work is ongoing to develop the ICIQ-UAB patient-

reported outcome measure, noninvasive methods of diag-

nosing DU, and a more precise way of defining DU.

For the modified definition proposed by Fode and

Sønksen, we would like to draw attention to the recently

published symptomatic definition proposed by the stan-

dardisation subcommittee of the International Continence

Society included in a recent book by Chapple et al

[3]

:

‘‘Underactive bladder is characterised by a slow urinary

stream, hesitancy and straining to void, with or without a

feeling of incomplete bladder emptying and dribbling, often

with storage symptoms’’. However, we would suggest that

the current proposed definition above, which we support at

this stage, is unlikely to be the definitive one in view of the

ongoing research efforts of many.

The editorial also raises further discussion as to how

closely linked DU is to what has become termed UAB. This

raises the question of whether all patients with a urodyna-

mically confirmed diagnosis of DU are considered to have

UAB, or only when such patients demonstrate symptoms

such as slow flow, hesitancy, and straining. Our qualitative

exploration of the reported symptoms

[2]

demonstrates that

in patients with confirmed DU, the actual subjective

reporting of symptoms associated with DU can be relatively

low. There are reasons why a patient may not volunteer

symptoms; for example, theymay have had symptoms for so

long that they have not noticed a deterioration over time.

Perhaps we can learn from the relationships between

overactive bladder (OAB) and detrusor overactivity (DO).

We see patients without OAB symptoms who demonstrate

involuntary detrusor contractions during urodynamics that

are characteristic of DO, but do not report urgency. We are

happy to accept such findings and report ‘‘asymptomatic

DO’’. Similarly, we see DU on voiding cystometry in patients

without voiding symptoms. Hence, we recommend that

DOIs of original articles:

http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.eururo.2017.04.017

,

http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.eururo.2017.03.045

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* Corresponding author. Bristol Urological Institute, Learning and Re-

search Building, Southmead Hospital, Bristol BS10 5NB, UK.

Tel. +44 117 4147934.

E-mail address:

alan.uren@bui.ac.uk

(A.D. Uren).

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